To be fair, i'm finding myself playing F1C more now. With the 2003 RH season package it is bang upto date. I agree the tracks are not as good as GP4 but track updates have started to appear on the net of which i've added also. F1C Plus points: No messing around with a million different editors, most of last year I spent more time updating GP4 than actually playing it.

You can remove arrows team. Sounds are must better than GP4. Racing seems more on the edge and exciting. (after a tweak of the driver aggression and performance tabs) Better sense of speed. All I can say is try it folks and give it a fair amout of your playtime, I have both games and I enjoy them both, both of them run absolutely mint on my system. F1C has started to take the edge over GP4.

Hey cwm, 'But F1 Challenge 99-02 dont crash to desktop like GP4 do ' I don't agree with u.I don't have crashes anytime.I just give gp bit of respect keeping the background tasks low & only gp4 cleanly without net connected.it is kool.I do this also for a game named Flanker 2.51.Like gp4 is he best racing simulation, flanker 2.51 is also the best combat sim though it is released in 1998.Both of these games deserve respect and they do demand for it, by crashing if u don't give them respect. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dell Inspiron 9300, Intel Pentium M 1.86 ghz, 2 GB RAM, Windows Vista Ultimate, 256 MB Geforce 6800 Go, 1920x1200 screen res (ooH YEAHH!!!) Saitek X-45. F1C is a frustrating game because it has many flaws which have been pointed out here but the most important thing - the physics are absolutely superb, seriously I do not think for a minute that driving an F1 car is as easy as it is in GP4. Basically the only way to spin the car in GP4 is either to go off the track or get on the throttle to early with TC off. In F1C the car moves about in high speed corners and you can really see why the drivers love them because they are so challanging, in GP4 the car is glued to the floor and fast corners are so easy.

I know F1 cars have a lot of grip but they do move about and slide in fast corners, for an example download MS's pole lap from Sepang 00 or 01, he gets a massive slide in one of the fast chicanes and you can really appreciate his talent as when this happens in F1C I can't get close to catching it in time. This has never happened to me in GP4, the car just goes through the corners as if on rails. I'm not bashing GP4 or anything I like it, its good fun and the track modelling, graphics and AI are superb, but the physics model is extremely over simplified IMO. Post Edited (07-26-03 16:26). Hi CWM, Let me tell u tips for running gp4 without errors. 1)Defrag ur hard drive 2)Mke a brand new clean gp4 install with 9.6 patch 3)Install ur new cars by viper, bojan, wai, erwin etc one at a time everytime making a backup 4)MOST OF ALL DO NOT USE CARSET CREATOR 4(I am not against the author but I did not have a single crash since I stopped using it.) 5)Play gp4 with most background tasks removed. Gp4 will enjoy the hardware memory.

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